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STFU Sizists

Welcome to a fat-friendly environment in which to share positive thoughts on fat and size acceptance, and to showcase some of the greatest hits of fatphobic ignorance!

If you'd like to submit something, please go ahead!

This is a HAES-positive space, so please do not make assumptions about anyone's health (not that you should be anyway)

This is also a trans*-friendly, feminist-friendly, pro-choice, anti-ableist and anti-racist space, so please keep that in mind.

If you are here to concern troll, please read these before submitting:

http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/
http://makefriendswithfood.blogspot.com/2010/03/5-things-i-learned-about-being-healthy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_at_Every_Size
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/fat-acceptance-faq/health/


...and if you still want to judge people's worthiness of respect by their health... well then you're just a douche.

If your question is deemed to be concern trolling it may be deleted. Or you might get your ass handed to you on a plate.
Sep 14 '14

Anonymous asked:

My friend is fat, and he has a friend who is also fat. And they both rode in my car at the same time and long story short, their combined weight of 500+ lbs damaged the suspension of my car such that I can't get it to go faster than 70 MPH downhill anymore. I try my best to take them on walks when we hang out, but I'm afraid he's going to notice that we no longer go to see movies/visit other friends/generally drive around. What do I tell him when he inevitably asks why? I don't want to hurt him.

atheologist:

maggiemunkee:

thatbadadvice:

Readers won’t stop sending the Bad Advisor their real-ass questions to answer, so the Bad Advisor is periodically going to try her hand at answering them.

image

Are your friends … dogs? Is that why you “take them on walks” when you “hang out” with them?

Believe the Bad Advisor, your friends have noticed that you’re treating them like secret weight loss projects. Being fat doesn’t mean you stop having the capacity to understand and interpret the actions of other people. You can’t play a trick on fat people that will make them thin. Stop doing this asinine shit, it’s gross.

As for your car? Welp, sorry. Cars go on the road and roads are dangerous and random places where cars get fucked up. You can’t prove your fat friends did jack shit to your car’s suspension.

The Bad Advisor’s best guess is that you’re the one who’s going to “notice” that you no longer go to “see movies/visit other friends/generally drive around” with your fat friends because your fat friends don’t like being treated like shitty science experiments.

Go get your mind right.

A++++++++

Several people have also pointed this out, but what kind of shitty car can’t handle 500+ lbs of passengers? That’s basically the same as three 175 lb adults and I doubt the submitter would have complained about that.

Sep 13 '14

nudiemuse:

thejoyofq:

fancybidet:

femmadilemma:

myhappyfat:

claudewomen:

“‘Fat is a powerful little word, full of baggage and judgement. This undaunted production delves into real-life experiences and stories to challenge aesthetic norms and reclaim a performative space for people with large bodies.” 

Force Majeure presents NOTHING TO LOSE: http://forcemajeure.com.au/our-work/current-projects/nothing-to-lose/

Holy crap this is beautiful!

that first picturewow

I’M GONNA SEE THIS IF I HAVE TO STEAL A CAR AND DRIVE DOWN TO SYDNEY/ MELBOURNE.

OMG my baaaaaabes!!!!

Sep 9 '14

skindeap:

thewaywardqueen:

eyeglance:

Your Body Is Beautiful And You Are A G o d d e s s 

i absolutely adore this but aren’t skinny girls in there? some girls have a high metabolism and they stay relly skinny even if they eat a ton. are they not beautiful?

image

Nobody is telling skinny girls they’re bodies are inherently unattractive because they’re skinny
Stay in your fucking lane

Sep 8 '14

overlypolitebisexual:

you will keep your mouth shut every time fat women are used as the punchline of a joke and are denied access to clothing brands and healthcare and are treated as disgusting but someone says “skinny shaming isn’t on the same level” and you’re up in arms because “stop making people feel bad for their bodies, thin women don’t DESERVE to be shamed!!!” (not like fat women, right??? everyone sees you, fuck you)

Aug 30 '14
"Can a thin person have body image struggles? Can a thin person be at war with their self-image? Can a thin person hate to look in the mirror?

Absolutely.

And does that suck?

Absolutely.

But the difference between these negative feelings and fatphobia is this: The only person worrying about whether or not I’m meeting beauty standards is me.

And that’s not the same for fat folk.

When you’re not thin, other people on the beach actually do take offense. When you’re not thin, people really do think that you shouldn’t be in a bathing suit. When you’re not thin, people really do make your body their moral obligation.

And while your internal struggle is real and significant, the point is: You might hate your body, but society doesn’t.

That’s thin privilege."

Let’s Talk About Thin Privilege — Everyday Feminism (via samanticshift)

You ain’t got people legitimately denying you job and educational opportunities because of the fact that you are thin.

You will not have people taking your picture in disgust and have them use it as ‘motivation’ to not be like you.

You are represented in all forms of media in an overwhelmingly POSITIVE light.

Plain and simple. There is no place in this world where thin people are not put up as the ideal.

So can we stop acting as if someone being individually teased for being skinny is the same as the systematic way that fat people are told their bodies are always wrong because morality?

(via knitmeapony)

Aug 22 '14
"So, how is the body supposed to tell between starvation and a diet? It can’t."

"for 40,000 years the primary threat to the majority of humans tended to be not getting enough to eat. In fact, this was true until the end of World War II in the United States and is still true in many Third World countries (and for some in the West as well) today. Since starvation was common, our bodies learned to hold onto weight at all costs. Any time our bodies experience lack, they learn to be more efficient in holding weight: i.e. the body that experiences lack increases the set point. Children who experience famine have very efficient bodies – bodies designed to hold onto fat. People who experience starvation repeatedly will have bodies that get better and better at holding on to fat.

So, how is the body supposed to tell between starvation and a diet? It can’t. All the body knows is that the signals (signals of hunger or craving) it is sending are being ignored. And the only way it knows to respond is as if there is a famine. It holds onto weight and creates a demand for high calorie foods. And so the diet fails for the majority of us.”

~Talking Fat, by Lonie McMichael, PhD (via loniemc)

Aug 19 '14
fancybidet:

atallyn:

cakefat:

dankii-doll:

Before I begin, I do not want to see ANY women under size 30 policing how the women this affects feel/handle these things. There are different tiers to being fat, different struggles and I personally would never compare myself and my struggles to a woman who is 600lbs. A size 24 will never know what it’s like to be a size 32 and you guys need to stop pretending you do. So often I say something to a smaller friend(sizes 16-24) such as “It’s so hard for me to find clothes. I am so limited. I can shop at like maybe 4 stores and they’re all online” and they say “OMG I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ME TOO! I GET SO DEPRESSED!!!”. Do you? Because I could have sworn you have WAY more options than me and you’re able to actually walk into a store and find your size. On top of that, as my friend, knowing they don’t carry my size but consider themselves to have plus sizes, you still shop there and swear we’re in the same boat. STOP. Forever 21, H&M, Wet Seal, Torrid and the lot of other stores that now go up to a 3X. Sure maybe it’s hard for you to find something in store that’s your size but imagine not being able to find anything at all. None go to size 30 except Lane Bryant, Catherine’s and Avenue- all of which have very drab, baggy clothes that decline in sex appeal as you go up in size. Not even Torrid carries my size in stores. Torrid also ONLY puts out a small amount of 4s and 5s in select sizes. Hmmmmm, wonder why that is? Mind you, I am well over a size 30 so I’m cutting them some slack here. I see a lot of women saying they’re body positive and for the fat acceptance movement but completely supporting these “ALL SIZES”, “CLOTHING FOR ALL” type lines and it’s bullshit. How feminist of you. These lines are not for “every woman”, unless I and many of my friends have been mistaken and are in fact, not women. It’s demeaning enough that when people come out with plus size clothing lines that only go up to a 3x or 24/26 but then they have to dehumanize us by saying “every woman”, then excluding us? If you’re going to make a plus size line, do it but don’t bring your prejudice into it. The thing is, they’re not that deluded, they know there are women bigger than that and yet they STILL say it. Do you not understand what they’re telling you? “These are the guidlines for being fat, stay within these sizes. Anything above that is icky and unhealthy. ew”. Do you think people like the ones who run swimsuitsforall have not gotten messages from upset women who don’t fit into their size chart? Why don’t they care? And that is the mentality of many bigger women these days. There’s acceptable fat and too fat and deathly fat and “Oh, I know I’m fat but I’m not THAT fat”, “I’m big but that’s just unhealthy!”. Body positivity isn’t even that body positive anymore. I see average sized girls commenting on posts about fat girls as if they’re actually fat and sworms of people praising them for it. I see girls, overly edited, with crazy angles, no roll out of place, being called body positive. Why? How is somebody that is concealing or altering their body, body positive? How is that when a size 12/14(a size that isn’t even considered fat by everyone) makes a post it has thousands of notes but I rarely see the bigger ladies inspirational messages being circulated. They’re there, you’re just not reblogging. Those people usually are not body positive, they’re just acceptable fat and they do their best to make themselves acceptable fat and you guys give them a gold medal for it. On top of that, because they so badly want to be acceptable fat they usually internally exclude and judge women bigger than them. I know insecurities are a complex thing and I am not putting anyone down but if we’re going to promote body positivity and fat acceptance we might as well do it right and stop putting the “safe fatties” at the forefront. DO NOT SUPPORT KELLY OSBOURNE’S NEW CLOTHING LINE AND WE NEED TO BE DONE WITH SWIMSUITS FOR ALL. This shit^^^^^ HAS TO STOP.

Can I just tell you how fucking spot on this is, as someone who’s size range from 3x, to 5x, it’s so fucking frustrating seeing smaller fats complain about the inability to find clothing, when it’s literally EVERYWHERE for ya’ll.
“These are the guidelines for being fat, stay within these sizes. Anything above that is icky and unhealthy. ew” - Hands down sums up the entire fat movement imo. If you’re above a certain size or weight, you’re disgusting and brought your being fat on yourself, so you don’t deserve to find clothing in your size - is essentially the message that’s being given by so called “body positive” folks. 
Being fat is hard on everyone. But please don’t pretend that your struggle is equal to mine when it comes to certain aspects of being fat - this being one of the many.

I personally find this concept difficult. 
In my life, I have always focused on “There is always someone better off than you, and always someone worse off than you”. And when it came to disability, that helped me significantly. Having people complain about illnesses that were minor to me was frustrating until I realised that, for them, this was a big deal. Because whatever they determined was “normal” wasn’t happening for them. 
So complaining about people complaining that they find it hard to find clothes that fit, when they do actually find it hard, seems……..it makes me uncomfortable. Just because person A’s struggle is greater than person B’s doesn’t mean person B’s isn’t a struggle.
And I understand people conflating two struggles is difficult (refer back to disability stuff) - it’s only human to find that frustrating. But, for me, in my life, I found treating them with compassion and empathy was easier. Because how they felt wasn’t about me, it was about them. And on their scale of the world, it was bad, even if on my scale it wasn’t.

It’s very simple. As a size 26 I can go to only a small selection of stores, and most of the time the clothes available in those store are a very paltry selection of what is available in other smaller sizes. For those who are larger than size 26 they are shit. out. of. luck. Like… there are no brick and mortar stores that cater to larger sizes than 26. What do you wear when you have nothing to buy?
I don’t have any difficulty recognising that struggle even when I am on the cusp, I will try to support my superfat babe friends the best I can and recognise their struggle.
It’s like - if you are fat but can fit into an airline seat comfortably, you will probably get dirty looks and have to squish your arms against your seat  neighbour. If you are fat and can not fit into an airline seat comfortably, or at all, you will be asked to move to a place where there is two seats together which you may have to pay for or you will be asked to leave.
Not being able to wear clothes or fit into places physically is a thing fat people should be able to get. It’s not about who gets it “worse”, it’s about who gets to participate in society, get treated with respect, and go virtually anywhere. If you are smaller than someone, how hard is it to understand that our culture won’t physically accommodate larger people?

fancybidet:

atallyn:

cakefat:

dankii-doll:

Before I begin, I do not want to see ANY women under size 30 policing how the women this affects feel/handle these things. There are different tiers to being fat, different struggles and I personally would never compare myself and my struggles to a woman who is 600lbs. A size 24 will never know what it’s like to be a size 32 and you guys need to stop pretending you do. So often I say something to a smaller friend(sizes 16-24) such as “It’s so hard for me to find clothes. I am so limited. I can shop at like maybe 4 stores and they’re all online” and they say “OMG I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ME TOO! I GET SO DEPRESSED!!!”. Do you? Because I could have sworn you have WAY more options than me and you’re able to actually walk into a store and find your size. On top of that, as my friend, knowing they don’t carry my size but consider themselves to have plus sizes, you still shop there and swear we’re in the same boat. STOP. Forever 21, H&M, Wet Seal, Torrid and the lot of other stores that now go up to a 3X. Sure maybe it’s hard for you to find something in store that’s your size but imagine not being able to find anything at all. None go to size 30 except Lane Bryant, Catherine’s and Avenue- all of which have very drab, baggy clothes that decline in sex appeal as you go up in size. Not even Torrid carries my size in stores. Torrid also ONLY puts out a small amount of 4s and 5s in select sizes. Hmmmmm, wonder why that is? Mind you, I am well over a size 30 so I’m cutting them some slack here. I see a lot of women saying they’re body positive and for the fat acceptance movement but completely supporting these “ALL SIZES”, “CLOTHING FOR ALL” type lines and it’s bullshit. How feminist of you. These lines are not for “every woman”, unless I and many of my friends have been mistaken and are in fact, not women. It’s demeaning enough that when people come out with plus size clothing lines that only go up to a 3x or 24/26 but then they have to dehumanize us by saying “every woman”, then excluding us? If you’re going to make a plus size line, do it but don’t bring your prejudice into it. The thing is, they’re not that deluded, they know there are women bigger than that and yet they STILL say it. Do you not understand what they’re telling you? “These are the guidlines for being fat, stay within these sizes. Anything above that is icky and unhealthy. ew”. Do you think people like the ones who run swimsuitsforall have not gotten messages from upset women who don’t fit into their size chart? Why don’t they care? And that is the mentality of many bigger women these days. There’s acceptable fat and too fat and deathly fat and “Oh, I know I’m fat but I’m not THAT fat”, “I’m big but that’s just unhealthy!”. Body positivity isn’t even that body positive anymore. I see average sized girls commenting on posts about fat girls as if they’re actually fat and sworms of people praising them for it. I see girls, overly edited, with crazy angles, no roll out of place, being called body positive. Why? How is somebody that is concealing or altering their body, body positive? How is that when a size 12/14(a size that isn’t even considered fat by everyone) makes a post it has thousands of notes but I rarely see the bigger ladies inspirational messages being circulated. They’re there, you’re just not reblogging. Those people usually are not body positive, they’re just acceptable fat and they do their best to make themselves acceptable fat and you guys give them a gold medal for it. On top of that, because they so badly want to be acceptable fat they usually internally exclude and judge women bigger than them. I know insecurities are a complex thing and I am not putting anyone down but if we’re going to promote body positivity and fat acceptance we might as well do it right and stop putting the “safe fatties” at the forefront. DO NOT SUPPORT KELLY OSBOURNE’S NEW CLOTHING LINE AND WE NEED TO BE DONE WITH SWIMSUITS FOR ALL. This shit^^^^^ HAS TO STOP.

Can I just tell you how fucking spot on this is, as someone who’s size range from 3x, to 5x, it’s so fucking frustrating seeing smaller fats complain about the inability to find clothing, when it’s literally EVERYWHERE for ya’ll.

“These are the guidelines for being fat, stay within these sizes. Anything above that is icky and unhealthy. ew” - Hands down sums up the entire fat movement imo. If you’re above a certain size or weight, you’re disgusting and brought your being fat on yourself, so you don’t deserve to find clothing in your size - is essentially the message that’s being given by so called “body positive” folks. 

Being fat is hard on everyone. But please don’t pretend that your struggle is equal to mine when it comes to certain aspects of being fat - this being one of the many.

I personally find this concept difficult. 

In my life, I have always focused on “There is always someone better off than you, and always someone worse off than you”. And when it came to disability, that helped me significantly. Having people complain about illnesses that were minor to me was frustrating until I realised that, for them, this was a big deal. Because whatever they determined was “normal” wasn’t happening for them. 

So complaining about people complaining that they find it hard to find clothes that fit, when they do actually find it hard, seems……..it makes me uncomfortable. Just because person A’s struggle is greater than person B’s doesn’t mean person B’s isn’t a struggle.

And I understand people conflating two struggles is difficult (refer back to disability stuff) - it’s only human to find that frustrating. But, for me, in my life, I found treating them with compassion and empathy was easier. Because how they felt wasn’t about me, it was about them. And on their scale of the world, it was bad, even if on my scale it wasn’t.

It’s very simple. As a size 26 I can go to only a small selection of stores, and most of the time the clothes available in those store are a very paltry selection of what is available in other smaller sizes. For those who are larger than size 26 they are shit. out. of. luck. Like… there are no brick and mortar stores that cater to larger sizes than 26. What do you wear when you have nothing to buy?

I don’t have any difficulty recognising that struggle even when I am on the cusp, I will try to support my superfat babe friends the best I can and recognise their struggle.

It’s like - if you are fat but can fit into an airline seat comfortably, you will probably get dirty looks and have to squish your arms against your seat  neighbour. If you are fat and can not fit into an airline seat comfortably, or at all, you will be asked to move to a place where there is two seats together which you may have to pay for or you will be asked to leave.

Not being able to wear clothes or fit into places physically is a thing fat people should be able to get. It’s not about who gets it “worse”, it’s about who gets to participate in society, get treated with respect, and go virtually anywhere. If you are smaller than someone, how hard is it to understand that our culture won’t physically accommodate larger people?

Aug 6 '14
"

But then, the truth was never really the point. Thin women don’t tell their fat friends ‘You’re not fat’ because they’re confused about the dictionary definition of the word, or their eyes are broken, or they were raised on planets where size 24 is the average for women. They don’t say it because it’s the truth. They say it because fat does not mean just fat in this culture. It can also mean any or all of the following:

Ugly
Unhealthy
Smelly
Lazy
Ignorant
Undisciplined
Unlovable
Burdensome
Embarrassing
Unfashionable
Mean
Angry
Socially inept
Just plain icky

So when they say ‘You’re not fat,’ what they really mean is ‘You’re not a dozen nasty things I associate with the word fat.’ The size of your body is not what’s in question; a tape measure or a mirror could solve that dispute. What’s in question is your goodness, your lovability, your intelligence, your kindness, your attractiveness. And your friends, not surprisingly, are inclined to believe you get high marks in all those categories. Ergo, you couldn’t possibly be fat.

"
Kate Harding (via annecarsons)

(Source: catholicaramis)

Jul 16 '14
madamethursday:

[Image: A black and white photo of several very fat women dressed in cold weather gear doing side bend calisthenics.]
Photo: credit unknown

madamethursday:

[Image: A black and white photo of several very fat women dressed in cold weather gear doing side bend calisthenics.]

Photo: credit unknown

(Source: kukumonto-weird)

Jul 15 '14
"Fat shaming, though cruel, is another form of bullying that often goes unchecked because people believe that it will spur others to lose weight, and, as the logic typically goes, become healthier. This is misguided first and foremost because there’s nothing inherently wrong with being fat (see No. 3). And even if there were, fat shaming doesn’t help people lose weight.

According to researchers, those who experience weight discrimination are more likely to become or remain obese. Even simply calling someone “fat” can have this effect: A recent long-term study out of UCLA found that young girls who were called fat by someone close to them at age 10 were more likely to be obese later in life.

Rebecca Puhl, deputy director of the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale University, echoed this sentiment in an interview with NBC News regarding a previous study that had reached a similar conclusion: “Stigma and discrimination are really stressors. … And we know that eating is a common reaction to stress and anxiety.”"
9 Facts Shatter the Biggest Stereotypes About Fat People: 6. Fat shaming isn’t helpful. (via sancty)

(Source: akai-tori)